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How School Counseling differs from Independent Educational Consulting: An Interview with Piet Lammert – Free Podcast

In the latest episode of The College Spy Podcast, Michelle McAnaney interviewed Piet Lammert who is a school counselor and independent educational consultant. In the episode, Piet and Michelle talk about making the transition from school counselor to IEC. In Piet’s case, he is still a school counselor, and his IEC practice is a side hustle. In Michelle’s case, she left school counseling to start The College Spy. Thinking about starting an IEC practice of your own? This podcast imparts some great wisdom from two people that have done it on their own terms. They also talk about letters of recommendation in the episode.

Here is a link to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecollegespy/episodes/8-How-School-Counseling-differs-from-Independent-Educational-Consulting-An-Interview-with-Piet-Lammert-of-DiriGo-College-Consulting-e1vkdpo

The 10 worst paying majors 10-years after graduation

We recently posted a blog about the 10 best paying majors 10-years after graduation. Unsurprisingly 9 of the 10 were Engineering related. Here is a link to that post if you missed it: https://www.linkforcounselors.com/the-10-highest-paying-majors-10-years-after-graduation/

CNBC has published another analysis showing the 10 worst paying majors. They were:

College majors that pay the least right after college

10 majors with the lowest median salary within five years of graduation

The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the least within the first five years of graduation.

Theology and religion$36K
Social services$37K
Family and consumer sciences$37K
Psychology$37.4K
Leisure and hospitality$38K
Performing arts$39K
Early childhood education$40K
Elementary education$40K
Special education$40K
Miscellaneous education$40K

While money isn’t everything (job satisfaction, etc. are very important) it is important that your students know what they are getting into when they pursue a specific field. Here is the link to the entire article: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/25/worst-paying-college-majors.html

The College Essay in 10 Simple Steps

Step 1: Understand the Prompt

Before choosing a topic, make sure you understand what the prompt is asking and how the essay fits into the application. Focus on what readers already know about you, as well as what they can’t find out from the rest of your application.

Step 2: Brainstorm Ideas

Consider several topics. For each, consider the prompt, the story idea, and the positive characteristic(s) the story illustrates. You might be surprised by which one you choose.

Step 3: Focus on Theme

Every essay needs a theme to help you focus. The theme includes both 1) What happened? (What story are you sharing?) and 2) Why does it matter? (What will readers learn about you?)

Step 4: Free Write for Details

This is your chance to capture details, focusing on the What happened? aspect of your theme.

Step 5: Write Draft 1

Draft 1 is a content draft. It’s okay to go over the word limit. Don’t over-think it or try to make the essay perfect. You’ll focus on structure and polish later.

Step 6: Review Prompt & Theme

We read first drafts with the prompt and theme in mind, then give writing exercises to help students focus the essay and add details where needed. This review is for content only.

Step 7: Write Draft 2

Step back to review the work you’ve completed so far, from Step 1 through Step 6. Then write draft 2, focusing on both content and structure.

Step 8: Review Content & Structure

For second drafts, we add notes in the margin, pointing out what works and places for improvement, based on each student’s willingness and ability to take the essay further.

Step 9: Write Draft 3

Step back again and read the essay with fresh eyes. Tie up loose ends and make sure it is clean, but don’t revise your work beyond recognition.

Step 10: Final Review and Proofread

We read final drafts for clarity and consistency, focusing on grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Perfection is not the goal. College applicants should sound like high school students, not professional writers.

Download a free PDF with these 10 tips here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aj42npkh794cpqs/Updated%2010%20step%20graphic%20in%20color%20Memora%20.pdf?dl=0

How to Get a Great Story out of Your Students

I love having lunch with my friend, Ella, who recently retired after years of serving as a great high school counselor here in metro Detroit, where I live. When we last met in person, we had just started going out again post-lockdown. It felt like a million years had passed.

We started talking about her previous job as a sales manager in the textile industry. I peppered her with questions about her job, what she did, what she liked. I asked, How do people pick colors for clothes or fabric for furniture?

How do you know which colors will be trendy?

How does someone know which color paint will be most popular next year on a car or truck?

She told me they have a system, analytics; it’s quite interesting, and it works, year after year.

I wanted to know who decides if red will be the in color for the season, or how long capris might be cool. She didn’t know, but she said there were people inside the industry who use data to predict that, too.

I couldn’t help myself. I love great stories. I find everything so interesting.

I like people. I like hearing their stories. Who are they? What’s important to them? Why? While Ella has been out of the textiles field for a long time, she appreciated that I was interested in her. I asked questions; I listened to her answers. We had a conversation. It was normal, natural.

Then something clicked.

“Hey Ella,” I said.

“Y-e-e-e-s,” she said.

“You know how to get a great story out of a kid who is writing a college essay? You do what we just did.”

  • Have a conversation.
  • Show the student you are interested in them.
  • Be curious.
  • Listen to what they have to say.
  • Ask questions.

That’s it. Yep. That’s the big secret.

That’s how you get a great story out of a student who needs to write a college essay.

My message: At Wow, we understand that essay coaching can be the hardest part of your job as a college counselor, whether you are a brand new counselor or have decades of experience.

But we also understand it doesn’t have to be that way.


Whether you feel confident or nervous, confused, or clear about the college essay, we love to share our expertise to show you how to teach students to write strong, effective essays with less stress and greater confidence for you, your students, and their parents. Email your questions to kim@wowwritingworkshop.com

What are some good school counselor interview questions to prepare for?

This question was posted on Facebook by a Counselor (Jill Brichacek) and I thought this would be a good post as many Counselors are beginning to think about their 2023/2024 school year plans. There were some great questions posted in the discussion so here are a few that could help you if you are going to be interviewing for another position down the road:

  • A student comes to you complaining about a teacher, how do you deal with this? Would you involve the teacher? When would you involve admin? (Posted by Sara Evazynajad)
  • Always be ready to answer the “a student admits to contemplating suicide, what do you do?” prompt (Posted by Mason Martin)
  • Describe a time where you worked with an admin/teacher/student and it worked well? Name a time where it didn’t work well and what you would you change? How would you support a special population student (foster, unhoused, probation, etc.) (Posted by Rebecca Laurin)
  • Tell us something about you that isn’t on your resume (Posted by Tara Christine)
  • How does a comprehensive school counseling program support the overall academic mission of the school? How would you use data in your program? (Posted by Del Cam)
  • What is a situation you handled once that you would handle differently today? What are the circumstances in which you would need to break confidentiality? Who would you help to implement/ grow a comprehensive school counseling program? (Posted by Kelsey Lawson Todt)
  • Tell us a story about restorative justice practices and how you would implement a PBIS practice? (Posted by RJ Smith)
  • How do you handle conflict with another staff member? How do you schedule to prioritize and schedule your day? How do you plan to form relationships with your students? (Posted by Alecia Nezat-Pyne)
  • What should the relationship between counselor and admin look like? (Posted by Clara Hochstetter)

ASCA also has some questions on their website (www.schoolcounselor.org)

Helping High School Students Understand Personal Finance Before Graduation

As a high school counselor, part of your role is to help prepare your students and young people to complete high school and step into their next stage of life, whether that looks like beginning a career or advancing into college education. There are many areas of learning that high school curriculums cover, but many equally important topics that don’t receive adequate classroom time. Your students need to be prepared to be able to navigate these additional knowledge areas as they move into adulthood.

Personal finance topics often don’t receive adequate air time in high school classes (or within the home) but are vital subjects for students to understand at least at a basic level. With the numerous responsibilities on your plate, it’s important to have strategies and resources in place for yourself and your students that can help make this subject accessible.

Here are some of the must-know components of personal finance that will likely be important for your high schoolers, as well as ideas for making these topics approachable.

The Process of Paying for College: Understanding the Basics

For the students that are interested in pursuing a college education after graduation, college finance topics are very important to understand so that they can access the help they might need to make college fiscally possible.

Grants and Loans

Both grants and loans help countless high school students across the country attend college. In fact, for many students, college wouldn’t be possible without utilizing them. However, it is very important to understand the differences between grants and loans before taking either type of aid. Help your students understand the implications and stipulations of both grants and loans.

Showing them online loan repayment calculators can be a helpful way of helping them understand how loans and loan repayment works. Looking at online grant application forms can demonstrate what’s necessary to apply for grants.

Federal Aid Programs

FAFSA and Federal work study grants can be important resources for your students to consider as they think about financing their college education. Various printouts, posters, or visual aids exist and are easily accessible on the internet that can explain how Federal funding and college aid work as well as how they can be accessed.

Eligibility Standards for Various Financial Aid Options

These are important for your students to know now so that, when they apply for grants and loans, they have the best possible chance of securing what they need. As an example, if your students have the option to not be claimed as a dependent on their parents’ tax forms, they may receive more aid from programs like the FAFSA and similar. These tips are important to share with your students early so that they can prepare as necessary for when they begin applying for aid.

Other Financial Aid Options

With other financial aid options, can provide essential resources for your students and aren’t always readily obvious. Resources like financial aid primers and reputable financial aid websites are helpful links to put into an easy take-home handout or have available to send with your students when they are embarking on their financial aid searches.

Preparing your students with basic information in these categories will help them approach college much more informed about what kinds of financial concerns they’ll need to navigate in order to confidently access college.

Other Important Personal Finance Topics

Though college finances may be a topic of interest for many of your students, there are plenty of other important areas of finance that are important to share with them as well.

Budgeting

Though it can be a simple tool, applying budgeting concepts to one’s individual finances can be a hugely powerful protection against avoiding financial pitfalls down the road. Helping your students work through a sample budget as an activity sheet during your sessions can introduce them to the practice of budgeting and can help them make much better decisions with their finances.

Personal Credit and Credit Cards

This topic is very important for your high schoolers to understand as they leave secondary education. Most students either already have some form of debit or credit card, or plan to use credit cards as soon as they are eligible and approved. Conversely, students who may not want credit cards could experience the difficulty of getting loans or making larger purchases later in life if they haven’t built sufficient credit.

These are important realities to understand before students unwittingly get themselves into a load of trouble by incurring significant credit card debt or being unable to purchase things like vehicles or their first house.

Investment Options

Such a huge beneficial learning area that can help students make savvy decisions with expendable income. For individuals who begin investing even small amounts of money during their college years, the returns they can expect can rival or exceed those secured by people who invest larger amounts of money later in life. For many students, this can be a strategic financial move.

Real Estate and Mortgages

This is a very helpful and important topic for any student who has an interest in purchasing a home or investing in real estate. Purchasing property can be a significant investment that offers enormous security, return on investment, stability, and more. This is a vital area to expose your students to so that they are aware of the benefits real estate or purchasing a home can create for them throughout the course of their lifetime.

Retirement Planning

This is a hugely important topic of conversation to have with your students. Even when your students think retirement seems eons away, it’s important for them to understand how decisions they make now — from determining 401K contributions in their first professional job to organizing their assets as they begin to amass them — could drastically affect their financial security when they approach retirement age or make decisions post-employment. Even a few introductory concepts and tips can help prepare them for when they need to make decisions that will have a large impact down the line.

The 10 Highest Paying Majors – 10 Years After Graduation

Do your students ever ask you what career choices you would recommend? Many students have no idea yet what career path they might want to pursue? CNBC took a look at which careers paid the most 5 years after graduation. 8 of the 10 were engineering related. Here is their list:

College majors that pay the most right after college

Top 10 majors by median salary within five years of graduation

The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most within the first five years of graduation.

Chemical engineering$75K
Computer engineering$74K
Computer science$73K
Aerospace engineering$72K
Electrical engineering$70K
Industrial engineering$70K
Mechanical engineering$70K
Miscellaneous engineering$68K
Business analytics$66K
Civil engineering$65K

Here is the link to the article which careers continue to pay off later in life as well: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html

Do any of your students ever have to create business plans?

If so, we found a nice primer and templates they can use. In College this is certainly something that business students will have to do and become familiar with. If they also have future plans to be an entrepreneur and start their own business banks will require this of them.

Here are links to some nice templates from Creately that your students can use:

Business Plan Template PDF

Business Plan Template Word

Business Plan Template PowerPoint

Want more? Here is a link to their blog which outlines everything you need to know: https://creately.com/guides/business-plan-presentation-template/

The Recommendation Letter

Why do colleges want them? Letters of recommendation are a unique component of the application process. They provide context for your performance in the classroom. The goal is to create a narrative based on who you are and who you are likely to become as you transition into the next phase of your education. Colleges want these letters in order to piece together your story. They have your test scores and GPA, but they want to know why you are a great candidate and fit for their institution. These recommendations go a long way towards receiving a favorable decision.

Who should you ask? It’s important to consider two teachers as you prepare to ask for your letters of recommendation. Many colleges will only require one teacher letter of recommendation, but some ask for two. You will also need a letter from your high school counselor. Additionally, if you feel someone from outside of the classroom can provide a positive and different perspective, this would be a great character reference. Consider a coach, club advisor, or even a supervisor from a summer job. So, now that you know the number required, who do you ask?

First, think about which teachers know you best. Do you have a favorite teacher and are you doing well in their class and/or demonstrating a positive work ethic? How active and engaged are you during their lessons and are you always prepared? If you find yourself nodding and answering yes, then these are the teachers you should pursue. But those are not the only questions you need to ask yourself when considering recommenders.

What is your intended major? The answer to this question can impact the teachers you might wish to ask. If you know you are applying within the STEM field, you will want to strongly consider one of your math or science teachers as a recommender. That being said, I strongly advise against focusing entirely on your math and science teachers. More colleges, even those with tech-heavy curriculums, value a well-rounded student. There’s no problem if you wish to pursue STEM and you submit recommendations from your Calculus and English teachers. In fact, that is what I recommend.

The key is to choose a teacher who can present the best version of you to the school. It doesn’t always have to be a class where you earned an “A.” Colleges value students who overcome adversity, so if there is a class that you are working hard in and improving, that could be a great choice. Remember, colleges are building communities, so they also appreciate a positive attitude in class, accompanied by your interactions with classmates.

When should you ask? The general consensus for this is April or May of your junior year. The teachers that you consider ideally should be from 11th grade, as these teachers will be able to best represent the most recent student you are as you apply to college. Sophomore year teachers are okay too, but I wouldn’t go back to freshman year – you’ve changed a lot since then! While the spring of junior year may seem early, it allows students time to provide these teachers with any forms or resumes they may require in order to write their recommendation. Educators are often bogged down with recommendation requests in the fall. It’s good manners and very thoughtful to ask early.

While recommendation requests come at the end of 11th grade, you should be thinking of it well before then. Being conscious of your classroom behavior and participation starting from 9th or 10th grade is vital. From that moment on, you should think of this like an audition for a role or a job interview. Regularly consider what makes a good student and am I fulfilling that description?

What goes into the letter? Your teacher will be doing the writing of the recommendation, but it’s always important to know the criteria by which you will be evaluated. Recommendation letters often follow a pattern of establishing a connection (i.e. how they know you), highlighting your strengths, telling an anecdote or short narrative, and then promoting you to that school. They will include details like your classroom participation, interpersonal skills with your peers, preparedness, organization, and general demeanor. It’s important to consider these parameters as you attend class each day. You want to leave your teachers with a positive impression of your time with them.

How should you ask? Like most things in life, it’s usually better to do it in-person. You’re able to convey your sincerity, emotion, and respect more efficiently through face-to-face interaction, rather than through an email. If this is a teacher you are comfortable with, this process should be no problem and can be a casual private conversation.

In Summary The letters of recommendation are an important part of the application process. Because colleges are going to use these personal letters to evaluate how you will impact their classrooms and campus, it’s vital students and parents understand and value the pivotal role that they play.

AdmitU Consulting, LLC provides College Planning, Test Prep & Tutoring Services. Check them out https://www.admituconsulting.com/

Student-to-School-Counselor-Ratio (2021/2022 school year)

The American School Counselor Association just did an analysis of the Counselor ratio per students for every school in the country. They released the data in a 1-page PDF that shows the ratios by state.

The worst ratios were found in the following 3 states: Indiana (694 to 1), Arizona (651 to 1), and Michigan (615 to 1). The best ratios were found in: Vermont (186 to 1), New Hampshire (208 to 1), and Hawaii (268 to 1). They also provided some interesting data on the # of students and # of Counselors per state.

Here is a link to the free downloadable PDF: https://schoolcounselor.org/getmedia/b9d453e7-7c45-4ef7-bf90-16f1f3cbab94/Ratios-21-22-Alpha.pdf

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